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[Ronno]

ok i guess i need to be told how much exp i have? i have been waiting awhile with my app because i was found to be misinterpreting how much exp points i have to put into jutsu. if i could get a higher up staff member to take care of this once and for all. i believe i have 4050. thank you.

[☆ F ☆]

Forgive me, but I am not understanding your request. Misinterpreting EXP costs when purchasing shouldn't alter your overall EXP total, just your own jutsu total.

[Ronno]

ok a staff member thought i had lied about my exp. so i need a staff member to tell me how much exp i have. i would think the admin would know about this. but i guess some mods go rogue and just go around accusing people.

[Ronno]

bump

[adero]

Its your job to keep track of your EXP. If staff have a reason to question your count its also your job to provide records. That's how it's always been but it was recently formalized.

Click me!

BUT... to make Fina's life easier since all the staff won't go near this with a six foot pole... here's my conclusions:

Original Bio
Second Bio
Third Bio

Bio 1 - total exp in techs - 1575
Bio 2 - " " - 2475
Bio 3 - " " - 2475 (assuming that count is correct/too lazy to count)

Thoughts on all 3 bios:

Bio #2 makes me wonder on the original tech spread.

Aug 7, 2011 16:32:23 GMT -8 chiatsuki said:

1/2
adding your 1600 exp to your sidebar.

This was posted during the approval process which leads me to believe that this char originally had no techs. (Would roughly make sense since bio #1 has about 1600 exp.)

That said, if we assume all of your IC posts were perfect 10's that's another bonus 420 EXP, totaling to 2020 so far. Can you recall any EXP bonuses you received perhaps? Site b-days etc. I mean the 400 or so left to compensate for between bio 1 and 2 is easily closed from an event or something but I'm not going to dig through your posts off the clock lol.

As for the shift from bio 2 to 3 - You requested that all EXP be placed in your side bar and then never spent any (seeing how no techs are listed). The most logical conclusion is that w/e is in your side bar is what you had to be honest. This would also be consistent with the 1575 I had previously calculated assuming you made a few IC posts since then - bumping it to 1579.

Click me! WIP Bio ver 3.5 - calling it this since it was after your last approved bio but never actually finished.

1000 EXP ► creation
100 EXP ► milestone - 100
250 EXP ► the milestone club - 6 months
500 EXP ► nrp's birthday
500 EXP ► happy holidays thread
500 EXP ► milestone club - 500
250 EXP ► fina's birthday


PREVIOUS CHARACTER ► here.
RETIRE THREAD ► here.
TOTAL EXP ► 4050
EXP USED ► 3275
EXP LOST ► 405

In this thread you do two important things - archive all your EXP gains from promotions and retire your previous character. Since the previous character was retired, you need to take a 10% EXP loss as stated in the rules so keep that in mind.

I'm also not following how you used 3275 EXP in the last approved bio since techs are not listed what so ever. There's a post for techs but its pretty much blank and was edited about a month after the original post (Last Edit: Dec 1, 2011, 7:59pm) (but BEFORE Apple provided a 2/2 - suggesting again that whatever is in your side bar is your actual EXP count - « Reply #7 on Dec 3, 2011, 11:52am »).

The problem here is that since you were at most of those quoted give aways (I could only check the working links since I'm not staff) - my question is why does your EXP counter not accurately reflect this?

... ALSO it turns out that when I go post digging even further (someone better pay me for this shit) the first bio I linked was NOT the original.

Even earlier bio - 1700 EXP spent in techs listed
Suspected original bio - unless I can pull another one out of my ass

Ok, now that I'm done being side tracked - my question still goes unanswered. Why does your EXP counter not accurately reflect this? Basically your bios have been very inconsistent as far as answering the question that you've asked except for one trend - you shove all your EXP into your side bar after the first 3 or so bios and go with no techs. Despite having posted in all these EXP give aways and having made characters throughout the year, your counter remains the only thing that's consistent - 1575 EXP (+4 from IC posting I guess or whatever).

Now I'm going to be completely objective from this point on - no more speculations so don't hate.
Facts:
1. You posted in milestone 100, NRP b-day, happy holidays, milestone 500 and Fina's b-day. That totals to 1600 at the very least.
2. Your original bio had no BLs or restrictions - meaning you'd start w/ 1k EXP.
3. You retired your last character at some point (December 18th, 2011 to be precise), meaning all gains from NRP's b-day on are not affected by the 10% EXP loss.
4. We cannot trust your side bar since it's been so poorly maintained/fucked with so much from you stashing all your EXP in there multiple times.

From a conservative standpoint, it would be safe by my recommendation and research to allow him the following amount of EXP:

--2740--

Why?

(1000 + 100)(0.9) + 500 +500 +500 + 250 = ^ that number.

This is not taking into account any RP done what so ever. I think its a fair compromise between completely screwing him over for not keeping track of his EXP and giving him what he asks for (despite having no records to prove it and assuming so idiotically that staff keep tabs on this).

Personally I would apply the 10% retirement fine to his EXP after obtaining all the give aways simply because his activity was 0 since he retired and I did all this work. (I expect some kinda compensation here > / )

TL:DR - give him 2740 if you want to be objective. Apply penalties as you see fit (maybe add that EXP to my counter ? ) for this horse assery I've spared you the trouble of fisting through.

SIDENOTE:

Apr 21, 2012 11:47:22 GMT -8 Ronno said:

ok a staff member thought i had lied about my exp. so i need a staff member to tell me how much exp i have. i would think the admin would know about this. but i guess some mods go rogue and just go around accusing people.

I really find it hard to believe this person is the same person who created this. The bio is so well made... and this post screams of autism and lack of punctuation and stupidity from that last sentence as a whole. Just saying.

[☆ F ☆]

Apr 21, 2012 11:47:22 GMT -8 Ronno said:

ok a staff member thought i had lied about my exp. so i need a staff member to tell me how much exp i have. i would think the admin would know about this. but i guess some mods go rogue and just go around accusing people.

I am aware of the situation, but the request still is weird. You're asking me to do something that is on you...? Tracking your EXP is your responsibility, though it seems adero beat me to expressing that.

That being said, can someone corroborate this for me?

[Exar Kun]

Here's my 2 cents on the matter.

I agree with dero's assessment of 2740 exp. The math seems to check out and I can't find any flaw with the logic after skimming it.

However, let me be clear on this. Sasawa didn't break any rules. You can argue from a moral perspective that he "should" have kept track of his exp, but: 1. The rules stated, prior to this week, that your only "job" regarding exp was to have a visible counter that showed what you think is the sum amount you have. 2. I have seen many members, including some staff (mods primarily), state in the c-box since the new exp rule was instated that if they had to account for all their exp they wouldn't be able to. Considering that staff is supposed to represent the best of the best on the site, the ideal member? Yeah, I needn't say any more on that subject.

TL;DR: All joking aside, Sasawa didn't break any rules, so I think any penalties are out of the question. ...on the other hand, Adero did a lot of work here, so give that Asian nigga a cookie.

_ _ _ _

But on to something else. Frankly... staff, you guys fucked up royally. Like, you seriously dropped the ball, and that's disappointing because I know for a fact that most of you are extremely intelligent and capable people. That being said, I can't comprehend your actions in this. Okay, you can't figure out how much exp Sasawa really has and neither can he. Fair enough, you guys' hands were tied with that. But seriously, how can all of you bright individuals seriously think that leaving the man in the dark for over a week was a good idea? Circa and those of us in Sand were holding off on advancing Sand's rp while waiting for Sasawa to get accepted. Eventually we got tired of waiting and moved on without him. So you weren't just holding him up, you were holding us all up. I couldn't believe my eyes when I looked in his bio 4 days after he submittef it and saw that it had 0 staff posts in it.

I log on everyday and see staff posting IC'ly, fucking around in the c-box and just having a good time. Not a single one of you could be bothered to take 45 seconds out of your fun time to go into his bio and say something to the affect of "Hey Sasawa, thanks for being patient. The reason why it's been several days and no staff has graded your bio is because we're having trouble accounting for all your exp. Please stay patient while we investigate this matter."? It took me a little over one minute to type that out, and I'm typing with only my thumb on a god damn cellphone. There's no[\i] reason for the vague responses to the questions we've asked about this matter over the past few days. There's no reason he should have to make a complaint thread just to get some concrete answers. Concrete answers that, ironically enough, come from a non-staffer (Adero).

Part of being staff means having good communication with us plebians, and when you don't have that it maked you guys look bad, because we're stuck wondering why staff is actively posting in adventure threads and events and in the c-box, yet people's bios are going ungraded day after day. That's not fair to anyone, including you guys, because we all know that you guys aren't lazy.

This site tries really hard to seperate itself from NFRP. That being the case, I really think you shpuld avoiding falling into the nfrp staff trap of the "they dont need to know" mentality. You know what I mean?

[☆ F ☆]

The matter IS being investigated. If that wasn't communicated clearly enough before, then our apologies. We appreciate the input, and we're trying. We aren't perfect all the time, but then again, who is? Don't be so hard on staff until you've tried it yourself; there's times when helping others have fun at the cost of one's own can be rather de-motivating.

With that said, yes, as staff it's a weight we choose to take on, but that doesn't mean we can't have a little slack cut to us on occasion. I'm confident in our track record over the year that here at NRP, we try to provide as speedy a service to the members as possible (cooking nin excluded), and their enjoyment is always our top priority.

Either way, 'Sawasawa', you'll be contacted about this shortly. Sorry for the delay, but we'll get through this one way or another.

Edit by adero - Sawasawa has been properly taken care of. My apologies for the delay.