Jutsu rank coordinating w/ IC rank

[kanayama]

As the subject line states shouldn't Jutsu rank align with character rank? I find it very difficult for a genin to be capable of being able to pull off S rank techniques and know multiple S rank techs? Because the way things stand now every skill level is equal, just the difference is mission selection and pay, there is no real skill level difference.

I suggest something like this;

Genin can learn two B rank jutsu max, unlimited D-C rank jutsu, and weaponry/accessories/items can't go past C-rank level.

Chunnin can learn two S rank jutsu max, 8 A rank jutsu max, and can learn unlimited D-B rank jutsu, and weaponry/accessories/items can't go past A-rank level.

Jounin/Special Jounin can learn 8-10 S rank jutsu, and unlimited D-A rank jutsu and weaponry/accessories/items max at S-rank level.

Kages/Sennin and Sennin level shinobi can learn unlimited S rank jutsu, unlimited D-A rank jutsu, and weaponry/accessories/items max at S-rank level.

This is just a rough idea I have, I'm sure it can be cleaned up and modified. My main issue is that in this narutoverse a genin is on par w/ Kages? Which is hard to believe, I don't think a system as I stated above is too farfetched in my opinion

[Hirihi]

While I can agree with you that it seems odd for a ninja to learn techniques of S rank, there are limitations on the site that dictate the abilities of the character to use them effectively. First, you have chakra pools.

Chakra Pools:

0 - 999 exp = Very Low
1,000 - 4,999 exp = Low
5,000 - 9,999 exp = Mid
10,000 - 19,999 exp = High
20,000 - 29,999 exp = Very High
30,000+ = Massive

Following this template for a person's limitations based on raw numbers, it alone can limit their techniques. Just knowing a technique has no bearing on their ability to use it in battle. So, say someone is a Genin, and they learn an S-Rank move with a Very Low chakra pool. Guess what, they can't use it without being extremely disadvantaged in battle:

Although a Pool can be 'Very Low' or 'Low', it still has potential to stand up in a fight if used right. Just keep in mind the golden rule - using jutsu which consume stamina or chakra of 2 or more energy levels above the user's Pool will exhaust you greatly! Finally, while Battle Moderators will be as specific as possible with chakra measurements when coming in to moderate a battle, users can make life easy and just keep in mind that their Pools limit their technique usage, and that certain techniques of certain consumptions will eventually tire you out. Just use logic and you'll be fine!

So, say a Genin with 500 EXP learns some S rank technique. With his current level, using that technique would be suicide on combat. The limitations on the pool do far more than just limiting the rank of the techniques you can use though. It limits your ability to spam lower ranked techniques.

15 Very Low = 1 Low
12 Low = 1 Mid
9 Mid = 1 High
6 High = 1 Very High
3 Very High = 1 Massive

# Very Low/Low: Minimal chakra consumption. These jutsu are very simple in execution, and as such are very easy to repeat. Unless specified, jutsu of this consumption usually fall in 'E/D' rank.


# Mid: Although not the easiest, these techniques are still light in terms of chakra consumption. Slightly more complex, the execution of these types of techniques is still simple enough for them to be repeated more than once without consequence on the use. Unless specified, jutsu of this consumption usually fall in 'C' rank.


# High/Very High: The more serious techniques. These jutsu have high chakra consumption levels because they tend to deliver destructive results, and are stronger than most. Of the harder jutsu to execute and master, the usage of these types of techniques is quite complex and as such, should be used sparingly . Unless specified, jutsu of this consumption usually fall in 'B/A' rank.


# Massive: As its name implies, these techniques are ridiculous in consumption, and as such, are usually one-shots that tend to not be repeated more than once a thread. Because they require so much energy, they also possess ridiculous power. Although these techniques tend to range in rank depending on circumstance, because of their taxing consumption these techniques usually wind up being forbidden or special for that very reason. Unless specified, jutsu of this consumption usually fall in 'S' rank.

If the techniques don't list an amount of chakra usage, the above guide helps to determine the limitations. So, if I am a Genin at 5,000 EXP, the highest I can use as far as my chakra goes is Very High, still keeping me from most S rank techniques, while keeping my current range of techniques (B rank) within a logical grasp of being used 9 times before ascending to the next chakra pool and beginning to push myself over the edge of fatigue.

With all that said, there are still ways to push your chakra pool, but they require working ICly to do that. Naruto, for example, worked with a sennin, as well as the sage of his Summoning Family, to greatly increase his power, regardless of him being considered a Genin. As much as what you described makes sense, it would mean a complete rewrite of a system that seems to be working thus far.

tl;dr, Just because you have the ability to know high ranked techniques doesn't mean you will be able to use them without killing yourself.

[KEITH]

Also, to piggy back on what Hirihi (Matto) said, there is a system for handseals and masteries. Masteries allows the user to get more bang for your buck after getting so much exp in a certain skill, which could also determine how strong you can make a technique, how much chakra or stamina it will consume, or how fast it will become. The link provided gives you the information that you might have overlooked. So, with those said exp limitations that you have for jutsu, when you get 1,000 exp in a certain technique, you are able to make a choice on what you want to master in. Handseals, depending upon the users rank, determines how many jutsu you can perform in a post, and really, even if a Genin had an S-rank technique, it'd probably take more than one turn of prepping to even use it. And, so forth with the other higher ranking techniques that the user may have.

[kanayama]

Hm ....Understood, thanks Hirihi and Senjutsu much appreciated ^_^

[KEITH]

No problem at all, Kanayama.