Suiton Expansion

[adero]

Mizu no setchi (Water Grounding)
Rank: A
Type: Defensive Suiton Ninjutsu
Range: 30 m
Handseals: Yes
Chakra: Varies - refer to special.
Special: Chakra required for redirecting Raiton jutsu is twice that of the attack being averted. Source of water used to redirect must be grounded.
Description: Raiton jutsu have always made Suiton users think twice prior to acting. A new concept was developed however, involving the redirection of lightning techniques by absorbing the energy with a source of water that’s grounded, effectively diverting the threat away. Such peace of mind comes at a cost however as double the energy must be expended to defend against such attacks while also requiring a ground external source of water. Despite Suition user’s efforts, this jutsu proves ineffective against A rank Raiton jutsu or higher. (Chakra booster masteries will increase the effectiveness of this technique, allowing it to defend against higher ranks. Chakra reduction masteries are not taken into consideration when calculating the amount of chakra expended by the opponent but are taken into consideration when defending.)
Domain: Suiton; Requires at least 2 masteries in Suiton Release

Kōshitsu Yari (Imperial Spears)
Rank: C
Type: Offensive Suiton Ninjutsu
Range: 30 m
Handseals: Yes
Chakra: Mid
Special: Up to two spears may be initially created when learned. Additional retraining increases number of spears by two (capping out at ten). Formations involving greater than six spears increases chakra cost by one tier.
Description: After forming the hand seals the user is capable of quickly materializing spears of water from an appropriate source within range. These spears are single pointed and vary in size/length depending on the body of water used (not exceeding the dimensions of a typical spear) and may be used for various skewering purposes. Creations from this jutsu are not designed to be held but are instead fixated from their source.
Domain: Suiton

Ame o Hōsan (Dissipating Rain)
Rank: A
Type: Supplementary Suiton Ninjutsu
Range: 40 m radius
Handseals: Yes
Chakra: Very High
Special: Lasts up to three turns. Additional B rank training increases duration by one turn. Chakra cost increases by one tier beyond the second retraining.
Description: The user expends a considerate amount of chakra upon forming the appropriate hand seals to induce a form of seemingly natural and moderate rain fall. By manipulating clouds in the air and condensing them together, water is forced to descend in the form of rain for several turns, affecting a 40 meter radius around the user. In doing so, atmospheric clouds that were available are expended and the jutsu may not be reused for the rest of the thread (unless these clouds are some how replaced). The duration of this jutsu is halved when used in extremely arid environments (such as deserts etc). Effects of the jutsu begin to manifest immediately, resulting in a moderate down pour.
Domain: Suiton; Ninjutsu Primary; Requires at least 1 mastery in Suiton Release

Suichū kokyū (Underwater Breathing)
Rank: D, C
Type: Supplementary Suiton Ninjutsu
Range: Self
Handseals: Yes
Chakra: Low
Special: C rank allows for application upon one other character. Additional retraining may be done to increase external applications by 1 (up to 5 max, including your own character).
Description: After forming the appropriate hand seals the user and their comrades (if applicable) are able to breathe underwater for up to five minutes. In order to do so a thin coating of water is placed over each mouth, allowing filtration of dissolved oxygen for breathing purposes. This jutsu may be terminated prematurely if so desired (by the user).
Domain: Suiton

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Suijinheki (Water Encampment Wall)
Rank: D, C, B, A, S
Type: Defensive / Suiton Ninjutsu
Range: Varies – see to description
Handseals: Yes
Chakra: D: Low; C, B: Mid; A, S: High
Special: Water barrier blocks attacks of equal rank.
Description: Suijinheki is one of the most impressive Suiton jutsu, and one of the few actually able to defend the user indefinitely from danger. The user will first do a string of hand seals, length varying by rank, and then they proceed to blow out a jet of water from their mouth. This stream moves at high speeds, and after five meters or so from the user, begins to form itself to a size equal and greater to that of the incoming attack, allowing it to act as a water barrier. This jutsu may be used in combination with external sources of water and requires the same chakra input as before but is now capable of materializing from multiple vantage points at a much faster, seemingly instantaneous rate. (Chakra formerly needed to materialize water is now used for quicker manifestations.) When utilizing external sources of water, the jutsu takes on the form of a water wall rising to block incoming attacks rather than a mobile stream projected forward. Manipulation of external water sources must be within a range of the user. (Maximum range is determined by highest rank known (10 meters per rank) regardless of the rank used to defend.)
Domain: Suiton

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[chiatsuki]

Kōshitsu Yari (Imperial Spears)

[/i] more spear each time up to the total amount of ten. After the fourth retrain chakra consumption should increase by one tier so your chakra range would be in between mid - high.

Also- how strong is this technique? Is it able to pierce through barriers if given the chance? If a shinobi ran head onto this technique, what type of damage would it do?[/ul]


Ame o Hōsan (Dissipating Rain)

Suichū kokyū (Underwater Breathing)

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[adero]

My mind likes pairs. That's why it increases by two. My OCD refuses to change that. (Not being rude, simply explaining.) Also keeping the range to 30 meters for now since general guidelines say its ok so long as its balanced to some degree.

Is it able to pierce through barriers if given the chance? If a shinobi ran head onto this technique, what type of damage would it do?

Should be a given. C ranks pierce Cs. If you run head on into a spear where ever you get hit suffers the consequence...

Chakra inc for D ranks is 5th retraining. UWB doesn't go past 4 retrainings so I'm not changing it.

I'm also not editing chakra costs since the special states a chakra cost inc if applicable and people need to naturally understand that multiple applications should result in respective inc cost till that threshold is reached.

Fixing the rest since I was too lazy to check the stickied threads prior to making these lol.

[~Kohana <3]

I'm alright with everything except for Water Grounding. Granted I do like the fact that you need a mastery in Suiton first. That definitely seems to be a must.

However I'd rather see this as a D-S sort of technique where as, obviously, learning the D-rank allows you to ground and re-route a D-rank Raiton technique for double its cost, etc.

[adero]

Its A rank because any lesser rank doesn't give it the proper pomp it deserves for such a well thought out concept IMO.

It's not multi ranked because there are no "tiers" of strength for this jutsu. All you do is crank more energy into it as needed. Multi rank would imply some significant degree of increase between each tier when that's really not the case. Its a gradual inc depending on the cost thrown at you.

Edited it to require 2 masteries as agreed upon on vent.

[vegapunk]

Looks good, 1/3

[~Kohana <3]

2/3^~~_~

via decisions made on Vent

[Messatsu!]

3/3

[.DEVIOUS]

Mizu no setchi (Water Grounding)
Rank: A
Type: Defensive Suiton Ninjutsu
Range: 30 m
Handseals: Yes
Chakra: Varies - refer to special.
Special: Chakra required for redirecting Raiton jutsu is twice that of the attack being averted. Source of water used to redirect must be grounded.
Description: Raiton jutsu have always made Suiton users think twice prior to acting. A new concept was developed however, involving the redirection of lightning techniques by absorbing the energy with a source of water that’s grounded, effectively diverting the threat away. Such peace of mind comes at a cost however as double the energy must be expended to defend against such attacks while also requiring a ground external source of water. Despite Suition user’s efforts, this jutsu proves ineffective against A rank Raiton jutsu or higher. (Chakra booster masteries will increase the effectiveness of this technique, allowing it to defend against higher ranks. Chakra reduction masteries are not taken into consideration when calculating the amount of chakra expended by the opponent but are taken into consideration when defending.)
Domain: Suiton; Requires at least 2 masteries in Suiton Release

Unfortunately I don't think that this technique is going to work. You can use techniques like Suijinheki to defend against Raiton techniques as well, but you don't have the ability to ground water, just control water and infuse it with chakra. I wouldn't even want to say that you could use this technique if you had a natural source of grounded water, because quite honestly you're circumventing one of the few natural pro's of Raiton jutsu and completely removing the tactical elements of being a Suiton user. I'm gonna ask for Brad to read over this tech and make a call on it, but from me it's a no.

You can already do cool things with your Suiton if you're clever, like not allowing yourself to stand on it or otherwise redirecting the flow of water away from yourself with techniques. This one is just not really allowable to me. :(

Spears: According to our thread NRP's Customs for Dummies, the maximum range for a C rank is 20 meters. Please fix that.

Rain: This needs to simply be regular retraining, not a lower-ranked training. Also, reword the statement on additional consumption to state that it increases by a tier for every two retrainings, not just 1 tier for every retraining past the second.

Underwater Breathing: Again, I'm going to say no to this. You have the ability to control water, not to manipulate the base elements that create it. Essentially, you cannot break down the H20 and cause it to become just Oxygen so that you can breath. There's no basis for allowing this kind of technique as a Suiton jutsu. If you want to breath underwater... become a Hoshigake or a Hozuki.

Suijenheki: Unfortunately, we only allow staff to do revamps of techniques unless you're the original creator of the technique or else you've been asked to revamp the technique. I'm gonna revoke the acceptance of that as well and ask that you remove it -- otherwise none of the techniques in the thread can move on.

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[suzaku]

Not big on the concept of Water Grounding as you currently have it, and would be okay with the Underwater Breathing if you adjusted it to utilize air bubbles and put a duration on how long it can last. Otherwise, the updates Lash requested need to be made.

[Not Masakuni]

Any progress on these? ^^

[adero]

Gave up when I thought it was a dick move to pull these back w/o notifying the creator in any fashion ^_^


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